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ELECTION BOARD & the DECEASED VOTERS

NEW TOPIC AS REQUESTED, with comment that was submitted.

(Request this issue be discussed in a new topic)

It’s Possible to Live Forever

The Election Board indicates the total number of registered voters at 16, 211 and that 20 percent of the total voters and signatures needed for a successful recall is 3,242.

You know the old joke: “How many dead people are buried in that cemetery? The punch line of course is “all of them” only that is not a joke anymore. According to people who watch these things closely, our Election Board continues to keep deceased people as registered on the Creek rolls. Why? No one knows for sure, but one thing is certain--there is a reason.

According to sources that know about absentee ballots that are being sent to deceased registered voters is that someone at the address who receives it signs the ballot and returns it to the Election Board. When the source complained to the Election Board about citizens who where voting after their deaths, the Election Board removed the deceased voters from the rolls. The question is how wide-spread it this practice and how does it impact our elections, and does it answer some of our questions about how some people keep getting re-elected when it appears they have no chance?

Do we need a better health delivery system or can we just insist the Election Board keep our citizens on their rolls where they will never die? How many living registered voters are on the Creek rolls? Not all of them, and that is not funny--it‘s just funny business

BIA - CHEROKEE NATION Tribal STATUS

NEW TOPIC AS REQUESTED by Eli Grayson

For you legal Creeks...BIA saids the Cherokee Nation no longer exist!
http://www.cornsilks.com/aDecision.pdf

What is this about and how does it affect the Muscogee (Creek) Nation?

MCN Festival Campaigning - Part 2

Main portion of AG R. Wiley’s opinion on Campaign on Tribal Property, issued 6-17-2009

Any person who uses or causes to be used any equipment supplies or other property of the Muscogee Nation, its agencies, authorities or boards, for political campaign purposes to support any candidate shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by confinement in jail for a period not to exceed sixty days, or a fine of not more than $5,000.00 or by both such confinement and fine.

A campaign is defined as "an organized activity or operation to attain a political, social or

commercial goal",  HERITAGE DICTIONARY 101 (3d cd. 1987). The political goal of

the T-Shirt sale is to oppose a removal petition filed on June 15, 2009 seeking the removal of Chief Ellis. The removal of a tribal officer is a political issue and a removal petition will have its proponents and opponents. Opponents of the removal petition will campaign in an attempt to garner opposition to the petition by wearing T-Shirts expressing support for Chief Ellis.  Proponents of the removal petition will campaign to achieve their goal by circulating the petition in order to obtain the required number of signatures for removal. Neither activity may take place on tribally owned property. Campaigning either for or against the removal of any officer of the Muscogee (Creek) Nation on any tribally owned property is prohibited by the Nation's law.

 

Tribally owned property may only be used for approved governmental functions.

MCNCA Title 31, § 1-101 et seq. set forth the legal requirements, causes and procedures for removing an officer of the Muscogee (Creek) Nation. One cause for removal of a tribal officer includes the following:

Use of government property:

An officer shall not directly or indirectly use, or allow the use of government property of any kind, including property leased to the government, for other than officially approved activities in the performance of a governmental function. MCNCA Title 31, § 1-104 3(b).

Circulating a removal petition is not an officially approved activity in the performance of a governmental function but is instead an activity of private citizens seeking to remove a tribal officer. Private activities of this nature may not be conducted on tribally owned property.

Ironically, if the Principal Chief were to allow a removal petition to be circulated on the Nation's property without taking action to stop the activity, it would be cause for the Principal Chiefs removal under the law. No officer of the Muscogee (Creek) Nation may use or allow the use of the Nation's property except for officially approved activities in the performance of a governmental function.

(VOC:  Emphasis added by VOC.  According to the opinion, Communities are also completely off limits.)

Delete and/or Ban

VOC is detecting some comments & postings from those connected with another website, and consistently goes completely against VOC's original intent & purpose.  VOC is determined & resolved toward its objectives, which we have stressed many, many times.

For those reasons, we are, have, and will be banning & deleting.  We sense some are using our website to promote their goals, and their website, and as stated before, of which we do not want to be a part. 

We know this will not go over positively with some of you, but we strongly believe we should protect our website.  Thank you.

MCN Festival Campaigning

NO KIND OF CAMPAIGNING TO TAKE PLACE DURING THE FESTIVAL.  ATTORNEY GENERAL ROGER WILEY HAS ISSUED HIS OPINION. 

IT IS NOT ALLOWED ON TRIBAL PROPERTY AT ANY TIME ANYWAY, BUT THE "IMPEACH THE CHIEF" GROUP HAS PLANNED TO GET SIGNATURES AT THE FESTIVAL.

THIS INCLUDES ANY KIND DEEMED TO BE CAMPAIGN MATERIAL:  PETITIONS, APPAREL OR SIGNS, ETC..

PROPER AUTHORITIES WILL BE WELL AWARE - INCLUDING LIGHT HORSE.

Legal Help for Council

We are amazed and curious as  to the Council's intent of why they need so many attorneys.  We presume they will be filing more & more lawsuits, and they need specialized help.  We hope they can tell us how much money this is going to cost us citizens.

ALL THREE (3) INTRODUCED 6/17/2009 & SPONSORED BY STEVE BRUNER.

NCR 09-005
   A RESOLUTION OF THE MCN COUNCIL APPROVING THE AGREEMENT FOR LEGAL SERVICES BETWEEN THE MCN COUNCIL AND FREDERICKS PEEBLES & MORGAN, LLP.

NCR 09-006   A RESOLUTION OF THE MCN COUNCIL APPROVING THE LEGAL SERVICES CONTRACT BETWEEN THE MCN COUNCIL, AND G. WILLIAM RICE, P.C. AND LEEDS LEGAL COUNSEL AND CONSULTING, PLLC.

NCR 09-007   A RESOLUTION OF THE MCN COUNCIL APPROVING THE ATTORNEY SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE MCN COUNCIL AND ROSETTE & ASSOCIATES, PC.  (This one is a familiar firm.)

Guess we didn't give enough credit to all G. Standing Bear did, and these guys are his replacements.  Frankly, the Council is not treating their in-house attorney right - MS YONNE TIGER.   Their actions serve to diminish her abilities & knowledge.
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JUST A SIDE NOTE.
At 5/16/09 Council meeting, they approved TR 09-046  A TRIBAL RESOLUTION OF THE MCN MANDATING THAT THE NATION TEMPORARILY CEASE DOING BUSINESS WITH EPPCO BUILDERS BY NOT AWARDING THEM ANY NEW CONTRACTS UNTIL TRIBAL CITIZENS CONCERNS ARE ADDRESSED & ADEQUATELY RESOLVED. 
The Chief vetoed this with objections.  Main reason is that it is the Executive Branch who is charged to executing such contracts and the Council is usurping this privilege contrary to the Constitution & Codes.
On 6/16/09, Council voted to over-ride the veto.  Now, what kind of mess are they getting us into?  Can NAHASDA take away their funding to us due to this?  Maybe someone who knows more than VOC can answer this for us.

2nd Attempt to Impeach the Chief

(VOC COPIED THIS FROM ANOTHER COMMENT & TOPIC.)
 
Recall Petition Launched

On Monday, Jamie Lea Fredericks filed a NOTICE OF PETITION TO REMOVE A PUBLIC OFFICER. The petition filed on Monday, June 15, 2009, states in part: “We resolve, that Andrew Dolphis Ellis, Principal Chief of the Muscogee (Creek) Nation, is ripe for impeachment for conspiracy to violate the Constitution and for other high crimes and misdemeanors, and that the following articles of impeachment be exhibited to the Muscogee (Creek) National Council.”

The Muscogee (Creek) Nation Citizenship Card certifies that Jamie Lea Frederick was born 12/07/1981 and enrolled with the Muscogee Nation as of 09-19-1993. Degree of Creek blood is blacked out. Collateral reports are that Jamie Lea Frederick is the niece of Tom Pickering of Eufaula. Of interest, Ms. Frederick is listed as Fredrick on her Muscogee (Creek) Nation Voter Registration Card, and unverified reports are that Ms. Frederick, who is soon to be 28, has never voted in an Muscogee Nation election.

The Election Board indicates the total number of registered voters at 16, 211 and that 20 percent of the total voters and signature needed are 3,242.

The Petition adds: THE PETITIONERS HAVE SIXTY (60) DAYS FROM THE DATE OF RECEIPT OF THE CERTIFIED LIST OF REGISTERED VOTERS TO FILE THE REMOVAL PETITION WITH THE SECRETARY OF THE NATIONAL COUNCIL. TODAYS DATE 6-16-09. SIXTY DAYS (60) DATE 8-14-09.

(VOC:  Although this has been filed by Jamie Fredericks (Fredrick?), Judy Aaron is on the document as Co-Sponsor.)

Assault of "Land Into Trust" by the Feds

(VOC:    New topic created as suggested.  Refer to his previous posting for websites to read up on these important issues.)

Posted by E. Grayson.
I understand that no post IRA tribe will fall into termination but their land which casinos are setting on just might.

The ruling states that the Interior does not have the right to place land into trust for post IRA tribes.

The post Indian Reorganization Act tribes are affected by the ruling.

Can any of you legally minded Creeks explain how this relates to our very own Alabama-Quassarte Tribal Town, Kialegee Tribal Town and the Thlopthlocco Tribal Town? Were they affected by this decision?

NCA 09-103 to Fund Constitutional Election

On 6/8/2009, Speaker T. Yahola introduced & is sponsoring the bill for $75,577.00 to the Election Board to fund the election for the Constitutional Amendments election.  This would be a re-introduction of #NCA 09-030 which was voted down by the NC back in February 2009, by a vote of 8 Yes and 14 No.

You can count the days to the next council election dates, and determine what they are up to.  Very clear.  We have all read the #A-67, which is their fear, not an objection, but I repeat, FEAR

This particular bill would cut the number of council members of 26, and pare it down to 16 members.  AND ANY CAMPAIGNING WOULD HAVE TO BE NATION-WIDE, NOT JUST IN THEIR OWN LITTLE FIEFDOMS, TO MEET THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT OF THE ONE MAN-ONE VOTE RULE .  This has scared them immensely, because most of us don't know council members who don't live in our own particular districts.  Not being a resident of McIntosh, I would not vote for Selina Dornan, nor Bill Fife, since I am not a resident of Okfuskee, etc.

Customer Service is Lacking at MCN

VOC is creating this new topic as some of you are straying from TOPICS, and posting comments not relevant to topic. 

This is simply a reminder that anytime any of you want VOC to start a new TOPIC, ask, and we will probably comply.  (We are moving 3 comments from MCN Building Projects.)

10 MCN THINGS CREEKS SHOULD KNOW

We would appreciate good suggestions, and worthy of merit.  Thank you.

MCN Building Projects - When?

New topic as suggested.

State of Okla / Jim Crow ?

COMMENTS HAVE BEEN MOVED TO THIS TOPIC.

Pruitt's Petition

New Topic, as requested.

VOC is moving a couple of comments to this topic.

PAID TO ATTORNEY(S)

1st bit of information --- Paid to G. Standing Bear (Attorney for NC) --- with quarterly totals.

10/4/07     14,103.60
11/8/07     17,825.82
11/27/07   14,937.55
12/4/07     13,705.72      $ 60,572.69

1/14/08       7,445.37
2/4/08         7,981.55
2/25/08       3,224.94
3/31/08       2,716.79         21,368.65

4/29/08       5,581.03           5,581.03

7/2/08          3,803.35
7/24/08        5,824.70
8/28/08           997.50
9/18/08        5,217.05       15,842.60

10/16/08     7,870.55
11/19/08     5,111.03
12/18/08     4,978.55        17,960.13

1/19/09       4,560.35
2/16/09       6,391.35
3/9/09         7,232.65         18,184.35

                                         $139,509.45

ATTEMPT AT IMPEACHMENT OF CHIEF

Comments on this issue will be moved under this topic.

REPORTING ON 5-16-09 COUNCIL MEETING

Every time one attends a council meeting, it provides additional enlightenment on what's what, and who's who, but we never can find the why's of anything.  Here are results of some immediate concerns to our web visitors:

NCA 09-067
VETO by Chief Ellis --- Council override:  24 yes, 0 no.  Alexander, Scott, Fife, Barnett & Cleghorn spoke on why this veto should be overridden.  Once again, Cleghorn attacked the Exec. Br. as being totalitarian, which is tantamount to being compared to Hitler, Mussolini, etc.  Same as he did before.

TR 09-019  After some discussion, Mr. Edwin McLemore was approved as Director of Health:  14 yes, 9 no.

TR 09-048  Temporarily ceasing to award new housing contracts with Eppco Builders until citizens' concerns are addressed & resolved.  Ex. Branch has asked for a list of complaints & NC has not delivered yet.  Fife was heard to say "We are not releasing any information."  Approved  22 yes, 1 no.

NCA 09-008  Approved appropriation to Sapulpa Park Friends Foundation for $50,000.00.  23 yes, 0 no.
 
NCA 09-084 Duck Creek Comm., NCA 09-089 Okemah Comm., NCA 09-090 Checotah Comm.  Appropriated funds to end of present FY.  Lost track of how may communities were being funded.   Although they have smoke shop funds (casino funds are frozen), communities had co-mingled their money, so now all is frozen until audits are completed.  All three were approved unanimously.

NCA 09-087  To repeal NCA 05-292, which created position of LEGISLATION AFFAIRS LIAISON/WRITER of the NC (which was the position held by Rita Williams.  Ms Ade spoke out that this was a full-blood citizen losing job, and that decision should not be made by one council member (T. Scott), whatever she meant by that.  Approved 21 yes, 2 no TO SEND BACK TO COMMITTEE  (Correction:  Was not repealed.)

 

Council's Over-Kill Actions VS Chief

Letter to Chief from Council

Chief Ellis,

 

This is a request for your approval to authorize the Controller to release financial information to our Finance Officer, Robyn Culley.  Council has requested a detailed listing of two expenses concerning the Office of the Principal Chief, attorney fees paid and owed and all out of state travel for the period of 10/1/08-4/20/09.

 

The constitution states that all expenditures of tribal funds shall be a matter of public record open to all citizens of the Muscogee (Creek) Nation; accordingly, I respectfully ask that you move this request forward to the Controller’s office for dissemination.

 

(From the Speaker – dated 5/14/09)


(VOC wonders why Council quotes Constitutional requirements when the Council is the only branch of MCN that will not adhere to the Constitution.  We would also like to see the same financials of the entire Council.)


CHIEF'S VETO of #NCA 09-067, Title 11 ss4-301 D

Chief Ellis has vetoed.

Introduced 3/31/09 by Sam Alexander. 
A short description of this piece of legislation appears under another topic.

APPEALS by Community/Casinos

Fully expected by citizens, those six communities have filed appeals, dated 4/28/09.

INTERLOCUTORY APPEAL ON RULE 3 OF Appellate PROCEDURE -- filed with MCN Supreme Court.


On 5/8/2009, Supreme Court rejected this Appeal.  Another loss for the Council.


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MOTION FOR CLARIFICATION OF 4/21/09 ORDER -- filed with MCN District Court

Legislation is Private until Approved?

New topic as requested. 


(VOC:  This is Yahola's quote as reported in the Tulsa World.  "Yahola said under the tribe’s constitution, any legislation passed by the tribe’s legislative branch is not open to the public until it officially becomes law, even to tribal citizens.")

VOC is BANNING

VOC is taking the privilege of monitoring our site, and deleting some comments, or banning some contributors.  This is due to a heavier volume of submissions which are directly contrary to what we have set out to do. 

We know there are some other websites which have sprung up recently, and we do believe they look at our "hit" numbers and would like to pick up some of our contributors or share in our numbers.  And you all have that choice to contribute to them.  
 
We will still ask that you "be civil or be deleted".

Thanks to all of you.
VOC

Chief vs Communities Lawsuit

FOR YOUR INFORMATION:

4/21/2009
   District Court Judge Patrick Moore has made his ruling.  IT IS IN FAVOR OF CHIEF A. D. ELLIS vs THE Six Casino/Communities - on all counts, and the Court has ordered "Forensic Audits" on all six communities, beginning with the period of  FISCAL YEAR 2002,  among other issues.

DIVERSITY of TRIBAL INTERESTS NEEDED for FUTURE

VOC:  New topic created at the request of a contributor.

This 1st comments posted by "CrazyDog" is forward thinking and are much needed ideas, with attainable goals.  VOC applauds this contributor.

Chief vs Community/Casinos Lawsuits

DIFFERENT TITLE --- SIMPLY A CONTINUATION of  "COUNCIL & CHIEF LAWSUITS", which has become too long.

(VOC wrote over a year ago:  Please keep the following in mind when you write a comment. This is a forum offering MCN citizens the opportunity to explain his/her side of the story or to state their opinions, and is intended to focus on the facts. Some of you are all losing sight of the purpose of this blog and have been using mean-spirited names in your comments. Don't let your emotions get the best of you and become accusatory. Feel free to voice your thoughts or opinions on the actions or inactions of any elected official/employee. You can rise above the fray if you remain professional, respectful and diplomatic. This forum is a tool for all of us to use in such a manner to reach logical conclusions when civilly presented with fact-based evidence. Mudslinging, on the other hand, simply appeals to the emotions and seeks no intellectually based response. It’s time for us as a politically conscious nation, to move beyond our habit of name-calling and engage in real, meaningful, intellectual debate.)

Employees - 2nd of Topic

(VOC has placed a 2nd version of "Employees"  since the other has become too long, and a few comments will be deleted.

VETOES by CHIEF ELLIS

VETOES

#NCA 09-041    Law amending MCNCA Title 22,  etc. TO RESTORE PREVIOUS LANGUAGE IN EACH TITLE & CHAPTER ESTABLISHING THE MCN HEALTH SYSTEM AS AN INDEPENDENT AGENCY & ESTABLISHING THE HEALTH SYSTEM BOARD OF DIRECTORS, & REPEALING NCA 09-028 WHICH CREATED THE MCN DIVISION OF HEALTH WITHIN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OF THE NATION.  Sponsor:  Kara Medina 
(Would take it back from the Exec. Branch & revert back to old system.)

#NCA 09-042  Law AMENDING MCNCA TITLE 11.  COMMUNITIES EMETVLHVMKVKE, CHAP. 4, CHARTERED COMMUNITY USE OF TRIBAL LANDS & BUILDING,
§ 4-302.  RIGHT OF RE-ENTRY.  Would make the Chief declare a national emergency, then notify the council, etc..
Sponsor:  Selina Dornan (Eufaula), co-sponsors:  Scott, Ade, Barnett, Jones, LaGrone, Proctor, Wind, Medina, Tecumseh, Cleghorn & Alexander.
(Would take away more powers of the Chief, whereas the Nation could not re-enter communities, regardless if they were doing wrong or whenever they were doing wrong.)

(VOC:  The sponsors & Co-Sponsors are the identical council members who have or attempted to thwart the Chief in running our MCN from day one of his administration, and haven't for one moment tried to negotiate any problems.  They will continue to harass the Chief & continue to disregard our MCN Constitution UNTIL CITIZENS RISE UP & TAKE THEM TO COURT.)

Allegations/Accusations to Impeach the Chief

Notice of Petition to Remove the Chief, with the Chief’s responses in Italics.

A. A. D. Ellis, without sufficient cause & without due process, and outside of any powers within his constitutional capacity as Principal Chief, did issue “Proclamations” which were not authorized by tribal law, and upon issuance of those“Proclamations” did interrupt the legal operations of properly chartered Communities of the Muscogee Nation.
As Principal Chief, I have the executive authority, as all former Chiefs had during their term in office, to Issue Proclamations and Executive Orders. Clarification, the official papers that I issued were not Proclamations, they were Executive Orders.

B. A. D. Ellis has, in violation of tribal law, utilized the Light Horse to deliver documents of the Office of the Principal Chief,Creating the false illusion that said documents were orders of the Courts of the Muscogee Nation, in an attempt to intimidate legal officers of properly chartered Communities of the Muscogee Nation.
The Light Horse Police Department falls under the Administration Branch of Tribal government and has always delivered documents when called upon. These documents did not appear or mention any court systems.

C. A. D. Ellis, during a period immediately before our national elections for Principal Chief, Second Chief, and NationalCouncil, did expend tribal funds for campaign purposes by going to California to campaign among absentee voters.
I have receipts on my credit card that prove all expenses to California were paid by me. Therefore you will not find this information in tribal records. But what you will find in tribal records is travel expenses paid in the amount of $749.79 to Anaheim, CA for Tom Pickering to campaign during this time. During this same time frame, Bill and Jeff Fife was paid a total of $3312.27 to go to Montgomery, AL.  Lena Wind was paid $1072.38 to Las Vegas -- Ms Caldwell $912.05 to Las Vegas in July 2007, could one say that these were campaign trips?

D. A. D. Ellis did, without authorization, sell tribal assets in the form of the bison heard which grazed upon the Hanna Project tribal lands, and did, with authorization, expend the proceeds of that sale to settle a tribal program debt which had not been authorized by the National Council and which the National Council had properly refused to honor because it had never been authorized.
I never even seen this bison herd. I believe they were given to the Nation free and accepted by Second Chief Berryhill. I understand the former director Allen Harjo sold these animals due to high maintenance cost  (expenses in excess of $50,000 per year); proceeds were used to purchase more cattle. National Council was informed.

E. A. D. Ellis has either, (a) interfered with, or (b) allowed other persons to interfere with, the plain language of an Amendment adopted by the Constitutional Convention and to change the language and meaning of that Amendment prior to its submission to the Election Board by the Constitution Committee, thereby failing to enforce the laws and constitution of the Muscogee Nation.
I have absolutely no control over the duly established Constitutional Commission. The National Council’s lack of action is now depriving the Creek people of their voting rights to amend their Constitution.

F. A. D. Ellis has wasted tribal resources through constant legal battles against the National Council of the Muscogee Nation,and has utilized members of the Supreme Court for political purposes by securing rulings which are not only contrary to the plain language of the Constitution of the Muscogee Nation but also contrary to the customs and traditions and political history of the Muscogee people.
How dare anyone say I utilized the Supreme Court in any way. This court is our supreme court and has ruled as accurately as possible according to our Constitution.

G. A. D. Ellis has failed to properly manage and safeguard the Muscogee Nation’s finances by making sure that a different independent outside auditor is brought in no more than every fifth year.
The National Council passed legislation to permit this auditing process.

H. A. D. Ellis has used the Muscogee Nation News to make personal attacks against tribal members, contrary to the fact that each enrolled citizen owns an equal undivided interest in the Muscogee Nation News, and I believe that any such personal attacks are beneath the dignity of the office of Principal Chief.
I agree, all tribal property belongs to the Creek people. I only write the truth and I will stand by anything I say.

I. A. D. Ellis terminated the successful watermelon project of the Hanna Community despite the fact that they were receiving support funding from other tribal chartered communities and has not offered them technical assistance to return the project to the Hanna Community nor allowed them access to community funds.
The watermelon project planted 40 acres last year and this year plans on planting 100 acres. They may even double the revenues for 2009, that which they made in 2008. I believe this means we are improving the operation -- not terminating it as Deborah Pruitt states.

I would advise the sponsor of this Petition to get educated on the Nation’s tribal affairs before throwing accusations.

Amending Powers of Chief

#NCA 09-067.  Intro. 3/31/2009 & sponsored by Sam Alexander  (Main gist of legislation)

D.   It is necessary to clarify Consideration language to remove any notion that delegated the authority to the office of the Principal Chief to negotiate consideration for retail tobacco tax or gaming profit splits for the Chartered Communities.

 

SECTION THREE.  AMENDMENT,  Title 11, §4-301, D., is hereby amended to read as follows:

 

            4.   Consideration:  the cause, motive, price or impelling influence which induces each of the parties to enter the lease agreement.  For business enterprises such as retail tobacco sales and gaming, tribal tobacco taxes and gaming profit splits paid to the Nation shall be appropriate consideration for use of the properties at issue.

 

SECTION FOUR.   EFFECTIVE DATE.   This Act shall become effective immediately upon proper approval and execution in accordance with the requirements of the Muscogee (Creek) Nation Constitution.

Ron Cleghorn

POSTING of 4/1/2009

Revised  Court Date:   April 22, 2009 - @ 10:00PM ---
MCN District Court


Comments without Solutions - #2

We are opening up a 2nd version of Comments without Solutions, as the threads have become too long.  Thank you.

We are again posting this request from VOC.  We are making attempts to monitor comments, and deleting,  which are simply complaints, although we have been very liberal in this.  As has been suggested previously, please offer suggestions to remedy your situations, and that will benefit us all.  You did submit suggestions for topics, and we have put those out there too, and we are again requesting co-operation from everyone. 

(VOC wrote over a year ago:  This is a forum offering MCN citizens the opportunity to explain his/her side of the story or to state their opinions, and is intended to focus on the facts. Some of you are all losing sight of the purpose of this blog and have been using mean-spirited names in your comments. Don't let your emotions get the best of you and become accusatory. Feel free to voice your thoughts or opinions on the actions or inactions of any elected official/employee. You can rise above the fray if you remain professional, respectful and diplomatic. This forum is a tool for all of us to use in such a manner to reach logical conclusions when civilly presented with fact-based evidence. Mudslinging, on the other hand, simply appeals to the emotions and seeks no intellectually based response. It’s time for us as a politically conscious nation, to move beyond our habit of name-calling and engage in real, meaningful, intellectual debate.)

Kara Medina

KARA MEDINA has introduced following new legislation to the B & G Committee, dated March 27, 2009.

TR 09-031  A TRIBAL RESOLUTION OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING THE NATIONAL COUNCILTO HIRE A FORENSIC AUDITOR / CONSULTANT TO PERFORM A FORENSIC AUDIT OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION FINANCES.
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Sorry Ms Medina but I don't even think you knew what a forensic audit was until the on-going hearings on the communities, or else it’s Sam Alexander and Ron Cleghorn who have been giving you instructions, and they are willing to let you take the fall for any failures, because they sure WILL NOT and you keep falling for them.

But it may turn out OK as MCN's finances WOULD include all the finances of the National Council as they are a part of the MCN. That is good.

Comments without Solutions

We are again posting this request from VOC.  We are making attempts to monitor comments, and deleting,  which are simply complaints, although we have been very liberal in this.  As has been suggested previously, please offer suggestions to remedy your situations, and that will benefit us all.  You did submit suggestions for topics, and we have put those out there too, and we are again requesting co-operation from everyone. 

(VOC wrote over a year ago:  This is a forum offering MCN citizens the opportunity to explain his/her side of the story or to state their opinions, and is intended to focus on the facts. Some of you are all losing sight of the purpose of this blog and have been using mean-spirited names in your comments. Don't let your emotions get the best of you and become accusatory. Feel free to voice your thoughts or opinions on the actions or inactions of any elected official/employee. You can rise above the fray if you remain professional, respectful and diplomatic. This forum is a tool for all of us to use in such a manner to reach logical conclusions when civilly presented with fact-based evidence. Mudslinging, on the other hand, simply appeals to the emotions and seeks no intellectually based response. It’s time for us as a politically conscious nation, to move beyond our habit of name-calling and engage in real, meaningful, intellectual debate.)

CITIZENS' ACTION PLANS

As requested by a contributor, we are creating this new Topic, and we are posting contributor's comments, as submitted.

To Voices 2 can you make this a special heading?: Citizens Action Plans Good comments. And this paragraph summed it all up:

“All in all, they just confirmed what the brouhaha is all about -- DON'T TOUCH OUR MONEY, OR ASK FOR OUR FINANCIAL RECORDS, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANYONE TO FIND OUT WHAT WE DO WITH OUR MONEY. It sounds like there will be many lawsuits against the Chief from all, the communities and the Council..”

Also this one too:
“Please, someone out there reading this, lead us for this fight to support the Chief and his plan.”

I’m ready to help out any way I can. I’ll start with an action plan and see what happens.

#1 We need to let the Chief know he has backers. I suggest we have signs printed and posted at strategic points saying “You go, Chief,” or something like that. I don’t know how to get people to donate for the signs. Maybe someone has an idea.

#2 I will volunteer to get a meeting room if citizens want to gather and talk about this and other ideas.

#3 I can go to the copy shop and price signs, if citizens want me to.

We need to organize better than the citizens who gathered Monday night to express their side of the issue. We need to let the casino communities know how determined we are, and are ready to oppose them.

The Chief is unfairly bearing the brunt of criticism for his brave stance, and we need to support him, and we need to let the 49% of citizens who get no help from casinos know that someone is looking out for them.

Anyone who wants to add to this action plan, please do so.

I stand by for instructions.