At 11/23/2013 NC meeting on disputed legislation #NCA 13-292 appropriating $21,993,801.00, an MCN attorney was asked his opinion on the legislation being discussed. He stated if it was him sitting at the NC table ready to cast a vote, he would vote NO as some important items were not in the bill & pointed out what he was talking about.
What do you think our hired/paid attorneys are for, if we do not take their advice into consideration when making important decisions? An NC member proposed a 2-month postponement of the bill. It was mightily challenged by Dode Barnett and A. J. Jones. They were 2 of the 10 who DID NOT want to postpone the vote. This was highly suspect since I believe they were looking forward to January 2014 when some new NC members would be seated & possibly not be in favor of the legislation. We already know Jones appears to be completely involved in this OneFire Holding Company, LLC and also Willowheart. They are all connected, right along with Georgie, and some of the other NC members.
NCR 13-004 A RESOLUTION OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATIONAL
COUNCIL PROVIDING FOR ADDITIONAL PROCEDURES RELATED TO TESTIMONY BEFORE THE
NATIONAL COUNCIL OR ANY OF ITS STANDING OR SPECIAL COMMITTEES – Sponsor: Sam
Alexander Postponed on 10/21/13
NCA 13-286A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK)
NATION AMENDING NCA 13-237 (A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION APPROVING THE
COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2014 AND PROVIDING FOR
APPROPRIATIONS) – Sponsor: David Hill
TR 13-132A TRIBAL RESOLUTION OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING THE
PRINCIPAL CHIEF TO EXECUTE AN ASSET PURCHASE AGREEMENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF
RECREATIONAL AND TANGIBLE PROPERTY KNOWN AS “YOGI BEAR RESORT” AND REAL
PROPERTY KNOWN AS “OLD EUFAULA SCHOOLHOUSE” IN EUFAULA, OKLAHOMA - Sponsor: Dode Barnett (postponed from
TR 13-132A TRIBAL RESOLUTION OF THE
MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING THE PRINCIPAL CHIEF TO EXECUTE AN ASSET
PURCHASE AGREEMENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF RECREATIONAL AND TANGIBLE PROPERTY KNOWN
AS “YOGI BEAR RESORT” AND REAL PROPERTY KNOWN AS “OLD EUFAULA SCHOOLHOUSE” IN
EUFAULA, OKLAHOMA Sponsor: Dode Barnett (postponed from October)
TR 13-159A TRIBAL RESOLUTION OF THE
MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING THE PRINCIPAL CHIEF TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT
FOR THE PURCHASE OF PROPERTY LOCATED IN LINCOLN AND OKFUSKEE COUNTY, OKLAHOMA -
Sponsor: Sam Alexander (postponed from October)
TR 13-163A TRIBAL RESOLUTION OF THE
MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING THE NATION TO BORROW TWENTY THREE MILLION
DOLLARS FROM THE PERMANENT FUND TO BE USED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A GOVERNMENT
SERVICES BUILDING TO HOUSE VARIOUS TRIBAL PROGRAMS Sponsor: Adam Jones III
(postponed from EM Session, 10/29/2013)
NCA 13-232A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK)
NATION APPROPRIATING FUNDS TO BE USED TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF RECREATIONAL, TANGIBLE
AND REAL PROPERTY LOCATED IN EUFAULA, OKLAHOMA KNOWN AS
“YOGI BEAR RESORT” AND THE “OLD EUFAULA SCHOOLHOUSE” Sponsor: Dode Barnett ($9,500,000.00-postponed
NCA 13-268A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK)
NATION APPROPRIATING FUNDS TO BE USED TOWARD THE PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY
LOCATED IN LINCOLN COUNTY AND OKFUSKEE COUNTY, OKLAHOMA KNOWN AS PARK
BROTHERS-ACE HARDWARE Sponsor: Sam Alexander ($5,527,680.00-postponed from
NCA 13-276A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK)
NATION AUTHORZING THE APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS TO BE USED TOWARD THE CONSTRUCTION
OF A GOVERNMENT SERVICES BUILDING TO HOUSE VARIOUS TRIBAL PROGRAMS Sponsor:
Adam Jones III ($23,000,000.00-postponed
from EM Session 10/29/2013)
NCA 13-260A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION
AUTHORIZING A SPECIAL APPROPRIATION TO GLENPOOL CREEK INDIAN COMMUNITY FOR FY 2014
OPERATING BUDGET - Sponsor:
Kara Medina ($144,497.00) (Postponed 10/21/13)
Campaign rhetoric is cheap. Cheap candidate talk is what we have always
been fed. Cheap candidate talk is the reason why our government is not
accountable to citizens. We should not tolerate cheap candidate talk
any longer. Citizens must press candidates who promised to improve
conditions that citizens face to pass laws about what they promised
citizens they would change. Speeches are cheap; repealing and passing
are laws are extremely valuable. Citizens should judge the performance
of National Council members by the amount of legislation they produce
that match what they promised to do in their campaign promises.
Do citizens want the newly elected members of the National Council to introduce legislation for a forensic audit?
Do citizens want newly elected member of the Council--even before they
officially take office--to begin research for a legal definition of
“moral turpitude“ as found in Article VI of the Creek Constitution and
write legislation about how it can be applied to transgressors of this
Article after they are sworn into office?
Do citizens want newly elected members of the council to begin working on establishing a campaign finance law?
Do citizens want a law/resolution requiring members of the National
Council to appear before citizens at certain times to answer citizens
Do citizens want newly elected members of the Council to consider a bill
prohibiting anyone in the Creek Nation government from receiving
compensation from any source exceeding an amount that is set at the time
of taking elective office?
Do Citizens want the newly elected members to create legislation
describing in detail the responsibilities of elected officials in
communicating with citizens, and the ways and means that will be deemed
acceptable to discharging this responsibility?
Citizens must remind themselves that the National Council
Representatives are first and foremost legislators. Their main jobs are
to make laws that make government accountable. They are required to
share their opinions, to tell us what they are doing, to ask citizens
for advice, and tell us what they are going to do before they do it.
(VOC: Better yet, just copy above questions & send it or give it to each sitting Council Member, and let's see if any of them answer or what their answers are. Let's seeif theyrealize what their duties are to their office and to the citizens.)
Okfuskee District:Mitch Jack - - - - - - won 1,189 vs 1,062 for Wind
Okmulgee District:James Jennings - - - won 1,307 vs 933 for Thomas
Tulsa District: Lucian Tiger III - - -won 1,297 vs 941 for Alexander
These figures were posted 9:42PM, 11-2-2013, and will not be considered official until after 5:00PM, Friday 11-8-2013.
(VOC gives a big thank you to all of you commenters & readers of "thevoicesofcourage".With all the information we were all able to contribute, we have no doubt that it was a tremendous help for the winners of this election & eliminating the incumbents. Great job, people.)
Won't this type of emergencies ever end? Surely the speaker Sam Alexander knew this issue was ready & needed to be put before the whole council for a vote. But no, they don't do that because they use the emergency session as their "behind the closed doors" action since not many citizens who even know what the permanent fund is will be in attendance & won't question.
Read the dollar amounts. Can they tell us how much will be left in the permanent fund after this un-named building funding is approved? You can pick up on how they go about getting the funding. First, they get the votes to borrow the money (when & how will it be paid back). Then, they divulge on what that funding will be used for. Very low-down & sneaky.
TR 13-163 A TRIBAL RESOLUTION OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING THE NATION TO BORROW TWENTY THREE MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE PERMANENT FUND TO BE USED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A GOVERNMENT SERVICES BUILDING TO HOUSE VARIOUS TRIBAL PROGRAMS Sponsor: Adam Jones III
NCA 13-242 A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING A SPECIAL APPROPRIATION TO A MUSCOGEE (CREEK) COLLEGE STUDENTSponsor: David Nichols ($1,068.66)
NCA 13-276 A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING THE A GOVERNMENT SERVICES BUILDING APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS TO BE USED TOWARD THE CONSTRUCTION OFTO HOUSE VARIOUS TRIBAL PROGRAMS Sponsor: Adam Jones III ($23,000,000.00)
Just a little tidbit that some people know about, and some have started talking. As of now, you may think it is just a rumor, but we kid you not. It's a big secret that has been held tightly: It's that Johnna has a son, about 5 yrs old, and George is the father. In other words, their affair has been going on about as long or longer that George has been married to Frances. All the stories Johnna has repeated on social websites have been about 2 daughters, never a mention of a son.
That is what she is probably holding over George's head, wanting living arrangements, living expenses, and who knows what else, in the lawsuit that's pending. She already has the house. Does she have a job to pay a mortgage? Rumors are that the National Council has already made secret appropriations for any legal determination if Johnna wants to extract a certain amount of money to settle the lawsuit. Transparency in our Executive Branch? Ha Ha.
By the way, isn't George's day in court about that lawsuit matter tomorrow, October 23?
The Giles couple, Cherrah & Justin have appointed jobs, making & taking a large chunk of MCN tribal funds as salary, and yet we wonder exactly what are their job descriptions? Do you suppose it includes "photo ops", where ever it may occur? They seem to be pictured at every event that occurs, even those just slightly related to Creek Nation. And it seems as if they have become spokesmen for the tribe.
We have experienced trying to do business with Community Research& Development (CR&D), and Mrs. Giles is never around, and her managers don't know what or how to respond to any inquiry. We don't even wonder if George knows all this, but I'm sure he knows. Cherrah is one of his closest friends/consultants, with relatives galore also on the tribal dole. We want top management who has a working knowledge of what they're supposed to be doing.
New Topic? (Requested by Confused NDN) Newest Alexander Release:
I just received another campaign message from Slammin' Sammy and I'm
confused. Is A.D. Ellis or Judge Moore running against Alexander?
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MESSAGE TO CREEK VOTERS. As noted earlier, former Principal Chief A.D.
Ellis is heavily involved in the current legislative elections. Ellis
required collusion from others to accomplish his intended stale mating
of tribal government his last two years or so in office. Willing and
able to provide his part of that collusion was District Court Judge
Patrick Moore, who could have gracefully retired after after 25 years of
service in early 2010
when he had the National Council polled to see whether another proposed
appointment from the Principal Chief would survive the required National
Council approval. In the February 2010 National Council session, the
bill re-appointing former Judge Moore failed with 3 yes votes and 20 no
votes. Because Moore's appointment called for "no carryover in office",
his term officially expired on June 30, 2010. He would not leave,
ignoring tribal law covering his final appointment. Instead, one Supreme
Court Justice declared on June 30, 2010 individually that Judge Moore
would stay until another Judge was appointed. There was and is no
statutory authority for this unlawful procedure, but stay he did. In
September 2010, the National Council passed a law abolishing the
District Court and establishing another District Court with three
Judges. After the bill was vetoed by former Chief Ellis, the National
Council over rode the veto in October 2010. Former Judge Moore again
ignored established tribal law and stayed, Thus the government endured a
Judge whose term had expired hearing cases in a court that had been
abolished.The once proud Muscogee (Creek) Nation Judicial Branch became
the laughing stock of the legal community, Indian and non-Indian. Many
attorneys refused to come to Okmulgee to participate in the sham court
system. Failing once again to perform his duty to appoint another
District Court Judge, former Chief Ellis never made another appointment
for the bench.
For the life of me I do not understand why the votes would want to take a
step backwards by electing candidates taking support, financial or
otherwise from these two outlaws.Voters have a right to know why LUCIEN
TIGER has chosen this route. In truth, the present administration and
National Council have accomplished more in a year and a half than former
Chief Ellis was able to accomplish in eight years.
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Whewwwww! Not sure of the
accomplishments by either administration but I'm sure that the present
administration has spent more money in a year and a half than Chief
Ellis did in eight years. And, nothing to show for it. Slammin' Sammy
has become so delusional, MCN Behavioral Health should step in.
Has anyone else received the hate mail that Sam
Alexander has sent out? I talked with three family members and a friend
and they all received a postcard slamming the former chief of creek
nation. Anyone know what they say?
(VOC: The run-off between Lucien Tiger III and Sam Alexander, the final votes were: Alexander received 587 votes and Lucien Tiger received 949 votes.)
A. D. Ellis DID NOT receive any votes, contrary to Alexander's campaign against him.)
More stories are still coming out about our Georgie Tiger & his family (ODCR).
Another must-read about our Georgie is his campaign bio in trying to be elected president of NCAI. Hope NCAI people are willing to read our information to keep themselves from looking like fools, if they should elect our Georgie.
Important Dates to keep in mind: Friday, October 25, 3 p.m. Protest at the Muscogee (Creek) Nation Tribal Complex
Saturday, November 2, 7 a.m. - 7 p.m. General Election for Seat B for Okfuskee, Okmulgee and Tulsa District
Creek citizen over the age of 18 should get out and vote. The only way
to remove the incumbents from office are to vote them out. The citizens
voted out Eddie LaGrone and Keeper Johnson, let's get Pearl Thomas, Lena
Wind and the evil takes its form in the shape of Sam Alexander. Vote!
(VOC: Keep in mind that if P. Thomas, L. Wind and S. Alexander get back on the Council, it is simply helping George keep his plurality to continue his "transparency" and "shove-it-down-the citizens-throats" way of governing as he has inflicted on us, along with those 3 FOGs. We need to continue identifying the FOGs.)
Choices on 11/2/2013 election: James Jennings vs Pearl Thomas (Okmulgee District) Mitch Jack vs Lena Wind (Okfuskee District) Lucien Tiger III vs Sam Alexander (Tulsa District)
This topic includes more than one item. Somehow, as topics, they are probably related to each other.
GT's Gala - Saturday, 10-12-13 @ River Spirit Event Center. This is what it would have cost you if you wanted to go (deadline was 9-13-13): Major Sponsor: $10,000.00 Table Sponsor: $ 5,000.00 Evening: $ 3,000.00 Individual: $ 250.00 And for $5,000 & upwards, WOW! You could get 30 minutes personal time with George and Roger Barnett. They will thrown in the inductees, whomever they are. Just a reminder though. Last year, after being fired from MCN employment, Ms Johnna Douchette Townsend stated all over the internet that the gala was her idea & that she had done all the planning, and George did not give her credit for it. Maybe that's why he got her a house(s).
The attorney representing Johnna in her lawsuit against her paramour George is from the law firm of Allen & Wisner (Muskogee OK). The Wisner in this firm is the sister of our former MCN's MNBE CEO Michael Wisner, who is said to have doing a lot of talking to the Feds, about George, Roger, and some other tribal officials who he knows about. Interesting, isn't it? (Voice 4 stands corrected. Apologize for error. Wisner was CEO of Trade & Commerce, not MNBE. Thank you)
About Creekside Management Group, the firm hired as contractor on the Cox dome building: Who are they? We hear they have been in business only about a year, and if you look it up, sounds like their offices in Okmulgee are located in a not-so-nice-area. Who found this firm? It was sponsored by Darrel Proctor & Co-Sponsored by AJ Jones, both of McIntosh District. It wouldn't be surprising if this is just another "front" for a FOG, and George is all set to get $$$ for personal pockets as will those 2 NC members. Some citizens even say they don't believe all the repairs being mentioned are not for real. Hope someone keeps track of the repairs which will be done.
George has thrown his hat into the ring, wanting to be elected as President of the "National Congress of American Indians".
Our guess is he still wants to walk in two worlds, and as the Chief, he only has one world filled with nothing but Creek Indians. That isn't enough for him.
Don't know who does the electing or voting; the Board of NCAI or the entire registrants at the conference. Hope they take some time to educate themselves on George, his past and present history. None of it will enhance their organization. .................................................................................. New Topic Please. If we can't impeach, have a gathering, boycott
or walk the highway against this Chief, could everyone please write a
letter anonymously to:
NCAI Attn: Jacqueline Pata 1516 'P' St. N.W. Washington "D. C. 20005
maybe it would be better for us for him to be in Washington D. C. and
have Roger Barnett run our Nation. They are two of a kind you know.
No one needs to know where the letter came from except that you care about Indians. ................................................................................. The NCAI really needs to know about the thief, liar, adulterer and more, without any morals good character or ethics. Those are his personal characteristics. And his penchant for how he runs the tribal government is undesirable, with no respect for the laws and especially the citizens that he said he wanted to lead for betterment. All he knows how to do is spend money, no matter how much, as long as it isn't his. Even for his girlfriends/mistresses. Those are the same types of people he surrounds himself with. Enough of him.
NCAI, if this sounds like the type of person you want leading your organization, please take him away. We do not want him around our tribe now or ever again.
INFORMATION TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM THE MUSCOGEE NATION NEWS, THE SEPTEMBER 15, 2013 EDITION.
Naming rights to another piece of property: MUSKOGEE PUBLIC SCHOOLS football field at the Indian Bowl, to be called the Muscogee (Creek) Nation Field. TR 13-117 was passed at the August 24th NC meeting. This is at the mere cost of $15,000 per year for 5 years, and according to PR Manager Edwin Marshall, since the money was available in the budget and he saw the advertising benefits. Of course, the good thing is that MCN will have 1st opportunity to renew the naming deal after the 5-yr contract expires.
Another: MNBE has purchase naming rights to Rex's Chicken franchise for $150,000.. signed away by MNBE CEO Woody Anderson on 9/6/13. He states that architectural designs are in the works for the restaurants to be placed at the Muskogee & Okmulgee Travel Plazas. No more Burger King???
So now, we will have our tribal name on everything and every building that comes calling, and we will throw money at it, since we have so much money in the budgets - but we will have nothing to show for any of the dollars we are putting into signs. Or do we get a cut of some of the profits? That hasn't been any part of the newspaper articles. Just less money for our needy tribal services.
The newer organization ENHOMATTV SEMVHECKVLKE will be hosting a Voter Rally on Friday, September 20, 2013 at the McCombs Building, front lobby at 2:00pm - 3:00pm.
Here is the lure: Snacks-Music-Door Prizes (They're smart enough to know what will bring in the Indians.) Reminding everyone to Shake the Vote on Saturday, 9/21/13
********************************* Wonder where they got the idea? This is Cherrah & Justin Giles, neither has any original idea. They can only do things with other people's money (ours). No doubt with our money for the goodies, and the wages which will be paid for the time off employees will be paid to HAVE TO ATTEND. Many dollars for campaigning. I'm trying to imagine all those people gathering in the front lobby of that building.
If they can do this, so can we, right? We're just as important, even though we aren't funded by anyone.
The MCN Primary Election Day is: September 21, 2013
MCN General Election Day is: November 2, 2013.
To those of you who vote in person, please set aside some time to go vote. The more voting, the merrier.
Please give us your comments on who deserves our votes, or why a candidate does not. We all need to know, and any additional information we have will help us in making our decisions.
VOC definitely would like to see the Constitutional Amendment defeated, the one where the Council members want to get rid of the At-Large Voting for Representatives. The reason CN member Thomas Yahola gives for going back to the old way IS A LAME REASON. We want to try this new way of electing the NC members a little longer as it needs time to acclimate the voting citizens in its intent.
Who should be the main target of the "Idle No More" protest?
Should it be elected officials, citizens, or the larger Creek and
VOC believes it should include the Elected Officials because they are part & parcel to all the happenings which has led us to this point.
All Citizens, because they have been willing to vote for the officials we have now, without even knowing what kind of people they have been voting for OR because they did not even vote stating they had no input and that it doesn't matter if one votes or not.
Non-Creek because they indeed need to see the real truth behind how our elected officials are running our Creek government. They need to see what kinds of characters they have been dealing with, either believing what they see & hear from our leaders. They have not seen or heard the actual truth - the things we all know. Lack of ethics, lack of character, lack of openness in how our elected officials govern (no transparency), and lack of respect for the citizens & employees for which they are supposed to be doing good. Nothing could be further from the "real truth". In plain words, they are immoral too. Is that the kinds of officials that outsiders like doing business with, or are they also part of the debacle that is going on and simply don't care?
It really is time to let everyone know the "real truth", and let the chips fall where they may.
There are some stalwart kissers (followers) of George on the Council, and some of them are running for re-election. This is the time to tell them HELL NO. No do-overs for that time has passed.
Of the ones who voted against Ms D. Barnett's bill to dethrone Sam Alexander as Speaker, four (4) are running for re-election: JOHNSON, JONES, NICHOLS & YAHOLA. Come on, voters. DO THE RIGHT THING & DON'T GIVE THEM ANOTHER CHANCE. And keep in mind, SAM ALEXANDER is also running for re-election.
If you talk to any of the reps, ask them about George's present problem, and they will tell you it cannot possibly affect them since they are all individuals & have their own minds. HA Ha we say.
GEORGE TIGER HAS FINALLY BEEN OUTED PUBLICLY BY HIS MISTRESS, JOHNNA TOWNSEND, THINGS WE HAVE ALL KNOWN FOR AT LEAST 2 YEARS. More investigating needs to be done by others about things we have heard, like the mistress having received 3 houses. Yes folks, that's three (3).
TR 13-103A TRIBAL RESOLUTION OF THE
MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING THE PRINCIPAL CHIEF TO EXECUTE AN ASSET
PURCHASE AGREEMENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE OKMULGEE MEMORIAL HOSPITAL LOCATED
IN OKMULGEE, OKLAHOMA Sponsor: Johnnie Greene
NCA 13-188A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION
APPROPRIATING FUNDS TO BE USED FOR THE OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE OKMULGEE
MEMORIAL HOSPITAL LOCATED IN OKMULGEE, OKLAHOMA, FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE
CALENDAR YEAR Sponsor: Pearl Thomas
NCA 13-189A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK)
NATION AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING THE PURCHASE PRICE OF THE OKMULGEE MEMORIAL
HOSPITAL TO BE THE ASSUMPTION AND PAYMENT OF ALL DEBTS AND OBLIGATIONS OF THE
OKMULGEE MEMORIAL HOSPITAL RELATED TO OR ARISING FROM THE USE, OWNERSHIP AND
OPERATIONS OF THE OKMULGEE MEMORIAL HOSPITAL LOCATED IN OKMULGEE, OKLAHOMA Sponsor: Pearl
NCA 13-190 A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION REPEALING MCNCA
TITLE 18, §2-102, ENTITLED “Higher Education; Tribal grants” AND REPLACING IT
WITH A NEW TITLE 18, §2-102, ENTITLED “Higher Education; Tribal grants” Sponsor: Keeper Johnson
NCA 13-191 A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION
REPEALING MCNCA TITLE 18, §2-403, ENTITLED “Guidelines” AND REPLACING IT WITH A
NEW TITLE 18, §2-403, ENTITLED “Guidelines” FOR THE POST-GRADUATE PROGRAM Sponsor: Keeper Johnson
NCA 13-192 A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION
AUTHORIZING A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION TO THE HIGHER EDUCATION-TRIBAL GRANT
PROGRAM FISCAL YEAR 2013 BUDGET Sponsor: Keeper Johnson
(VOC: Where are dollar figures that are required to be on such legislation?)
UN-OFFICIAL AS OF TODAY, BUT HERE ARE THE NAMES OF OUR MCN STALWARTS & STANDARD-BEARER HOPEFULS - - All for Seats "B".
CREEK DODE BARNETT (I) FRANCES MORGAN McINTOSH ADAM JONES (I) WILSON BEAR TOM PICKERING MUSKOGEE EDDIE LaGRONE (I) JOYCE DEERE OKFUSKEE LENA WIND (I) CELESTA JOHNSON MITCH JACK OKMULGEE JAMES JENNINGS KEEPER JOHNSON LIZANNE HOLATA VIRGINIA THOMAS PEARL THOMAS (I) TUKVPVTCE THOMAS YAHOLA (I) MARTHA GIVENS TULSA SAM ALEXANDER (I) LUCIAN TIGER RODNEY JOSIE CAROL McHENRY WILLIAMS WAGONER/ROGERS/MAYS MARK RANDOLPH (I) -- NO OPPONENT
We all know most of these candidates, however, think 2, 3, 4 times or more before casting your single vote, as it really counts. No such thing as 'it's only 1 vote'.
We would even think more than twice before casting votes for the incumbents (I). McIntosh district presents the most troubling slate, as we believe none should be allowed to be on the Council. Tulsa district doesn't need Alexander anymore (he's a bully). Doesn't help anyone.
HOPEFULLY, SOME OF YOU CAN PRESENT INFORMATION ON ANY CANDIDATE YOU KNOW, TO HELP EVERYONE GAIN SOME KNOWLEDGE OF THEM. The campaign brochures never tells the whole story on themselves, so it's up to us to delve past them.
REMEMBER, THE ENTIRE CREEK NATION CITIZENS CAN CAST VOTES ON EACH & EVERY DISTRICT REP, SO LET'S EDUCATE OURSELVES - THEN FOLLOW UP BY VOTING.
Out of the many talks we hear, the Council is nothing more than a rubber-stamp for Ole George, gladly approving anything that Ole George wants.
Do they really agree? Have they all read the entire legislations submitted? If so, are they able to comprehend? Are they afraid to be of their own minds and opinions? Are they trading votes for some favor for their own districts? Are they trading their votes for election support they received from Ole' George?
Take your pick or give us your pick. Election is coming up for some of them, and we should start finding out who is our representatives are representing.
When VOC 1st opened this website, it was all because of the corrupt actions of that large membership of council members who were in place at the time. Some are still there. We may need to rehash information too. George & Roger & Sam were part & parcel of the NC back then. We will look up all of them shortly. As stated, Election is almost here.
VOC is putting this information here as there are a lot of citizens who don't know about this aspect of our gaming endeavors. NIGC allows, investigates, etc. as stated in the qualifications & other information. Does "other corrupting influences" include internal corruption, which is likely probable within the Creek Nation's gaming business.
Following is what NIGC's responsibilities entail The National Indian Gaming Commission is an independent Federal regulatory agency whose primary mission is to regulate gaming activities on Indian lands for the purpose of shielding Indian tribes from organized crime and other corrupting influences; to ensure that Indian tribes are the primary beneficiaries of gaming revenue; and to assure that gaming is conducted fairly and honestly by both operators and players.
The National Indian Gaming Commission (NIGC) is authorized to conduct investigations; undertake enforcement actions, including the issuance of notices of violation, assessment of civil fines, and/or issuance of closure orders; conduct background investigations; conduct audits; and approving Tribal gaming ordinances.
The NIGC, Office of the General Counsel is seeking an attorney with broad knowledge of and experience in federal Indian law as it pertains to tribal gaming, the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act, and federal, state, and tribal gaming laws and regulations. The ideal candidate must be capable of making sound legal recommendations and exercising judgment on a wide range of challenging legal issues.
TR 13-085 A TRIBAL RESOLUTION OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING THE PRINCIPAL CHIEF TO EXECUTE AN
AMENDED TRADEMARK SUB-LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH MARGARITAVILLE
OF OKLAHOMA, LLC.
Sponsor: Sam Alexander
(On this, we have heard rumors that Margaritaville may be thinking of backing
out. Do you all think that may be happening?)
NCA 13-136 A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING ASUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION TO THE OFFICE OF
PRINCIPAL CHIEF’S FISCAL YEAR 2013 BUDGET. Sponsor: Dode
NCA 13-141 A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS TO THE SOCIALSERVICES DEPARTMENT’S TRIBAL ENERGY PROGRAM’S FY
2013 BUDGET. Sponsor:
Pearl Thomas ($84,000.00)
NCA 13-148 A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS TO THE SOCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT’S NATURAL DISASTER PROGRAM’S FY 2013 BUDGET. Sponsor: Johnnie Green ($90,000.00)
(These 3 bills = Over $450,000.00. Is this the same appropriation that George
has been trying to get the NC to approve for months? Under different names & reasons too.)
New topic as requested. Why won’t George Tiger tell us what he is doing?
George, why don’t you want citizens to know what you’re doing? or even who you are?
Why won’t you tell citizens about the master plan that you have that spells out where you’re taking them? Do you have a plan? Is it a written plan?. Why haven’t you published it, along with pictures of yourself, like you usually do? Who has seen it? Has your plan been discussed in meetings? Does it tell us what, when, where , how, why something will happen?
Why don’t you tell citizens what you are doing? Why don’t you tell citizens what you’re e going to do? Why won’t you tell us what you have done? Is it because you don’t know where you’re going? It is because you don’t know how to write? Is it because if you produce a plan it will make you accountable? It is because you are afraid of failure? It is because you don’t want citizens to know what you are doing, or because you don’t want citizens to know you are over your head.
Why don’t you tell citizens what you’re doing before you tell the Tulsa World? It is because citizens are not important to you or because you don‘t trust them, or is it because you know that you can bully them?
Why won’t you tell us what the Creek Nation will have in place that is working and is helping citizens to become self-reliant and do this at the end of your second year in office. (its called a projection) When will you tell us when we will receive anything in return for the millions of dollars you have invested and how much that will be? (an estimate will be helpful)
What do you mean when you say on television that you want outside businesses to work with the Creek Nation? What kind of businesses do we have that is making any money that others would want to work with the Creek Nation on?
Citizens report that some Council members say that information made to the public is often not fully discussed with them.
Citizens don’t know who you are. Could you provide information about your principles and standards? Citizens are interested in the process that you go through to estimate or determine the value of something.
NCA 13-044 A law of the MCN authorization special appropriation to Office of Principal Chief’s FY 2013 budget. Sponsor: S. Ade ($456,400.00). Postponed on 3/14/13
NCA 13-091 A law of the MCN authorization the Chief to make certain commitments to the U. S. Federal Reserve System in order to qualify as a bidder at an auction on a portion of the U. S. Treasury’s preferred stock ownership position in Spiritbank, and approving certain Legal provisions, including a limited waiver of sovereign immunity in furtherance of the Commitments. Sponsor: S. Alexander.
TR 13-049 A tribal resolution of the MCN confirming the nomination of Selina Jayne-Dornan as a PART-TIME GAMING COMMISSIONER of the MCN Office of Public Gaming. Sponsor: S. Ade
NCA 13-085 A law of the MCN authorizing a special appropriation to Checotah Indian Community. Sponsor: D. Proctor; Co-Sponsors: K. Medina & L. Wind ($6,641.00)
(VOC: Picked some of the more interesting items from last evening's Planning Session agenda.)
Does the story below from the Navajo Nation sound familiar? ////////////////// Criminal Charges Filed Against Ex-Navajo Lawmaker
By FELICIA FONSECA Associated Press FLAGSTAFF, Ariz. April 17, 2013 (AP)
A former Navajo Nation lawmaker has been charged with receiving kickbacks, submitting false information and conspiring with a colleague to funnel nearly $100,000 to members of his immediate family while he served on the Tribal Council.
Prosecutors from the Rothstein Law Firm announced the filing of 24 charges against Ernest Yazzie Jr. on Tuesday. The charges represent the first criminal case brought by the law firm that took over an investigation of the Tribal Council's use of discretionary funds in 2011, but it won't be the only case.
Prosecutors have said they intend to file charges against other current or former Navajo lawmakers. They say their investigation has revealed two common abuses — that lawmakers gave money to their own families or the families of other lawmakers.
Criminal complaints filed in Window Rock District Court allege nearly one-third of the discretionary funds allocated to Yazzie between 2006 and 2009 went to his wife and three children. Yazzie served two terms on the Navajo Nation Council starting in 2003, representing the communities of Churchrock and Breadsprings in New Mexico. He lost a bid for re-election in 2010, after voters reduced the Tribal Council from nearly 90 members to 24.
At the time, another prosecutor had brought criminal cases against a majority of the 88 lawmakers, alleging massive fraud in the use of discretionary funding intended for Navajos on fixed incomes, college students, organizations in need or Navajos seeking money for emergencies. The prosecutor, Alan Balaran, eventually settled or dismissed those charges but filed a civil case that included many of the same defendants.
Balaran's contract wasn't renewed. The Rothstein Law Firm took over the investigation and is evaluating the civil complaint. Of the 85 defendants named in it, 75 remain.
Yazzie is representing himself in the criminal case filed this week. A call to a number listed for him in Sanders didn't go through.
In a 2010 interview with The Associated Press, Yazzie said he believed the complaints filed by Balaran were politically motivated and meant to keep certain lawmakers out of office. He defended the use of discretionary spending, saying: "It's our own people doing for their own people. What's wrong? At least us, we help the people."
The other day I was talking with a member of my family and we got on the subject of the future of the tribe. One topic turned into another and we soon realized that the Muscogee (Creek) Nation is at a fork in its governmental life that we, as citizens and government officials, should soon decided on a course for the remainder of the twenty-first century.
In our present state, we have elected officials who are addressing only their own personal agenda despite the numerous promises and well-known dilemmas that each subgroup in the tribe face (increasing health care costs for senior citizens, access to tribal facilities, health care professional shortage, rising cost of tuition in higher education, decreased funding for public education, increased unemployment in the counties, decreased revenue from the casinos, possible private gaming establishments in Texas, Kansas, Arkansas and Missouri and the overall increase of living expenses throughout the state and the nation) versus citizens who would like to promote the overall success and agenda of the tribe.
Should the administration continue on its present course and possibly dismantle the foundation of the Muscogee (Creek) Nation that has been created or could they change their direction and work towards better serving all the tribal members?
Problems: How do we move the tribe forward without losing those cultural connections and traditions while still being professional and progressive? Do we give up those traditions and teachings in order to be successful in modern America?
The tribe is divided into four characters of citizens. The first group is the administration's supporters. The second group are those who are in opposition of the administration. The third group are those who are apathetic towards the Creek government and the fourth group are citizens who do not care. What's sad is that the last group are the majority of citizens. Where do you see the tribe heading in the next four years? 8 years? 10 years? 50 years? Do you still think there will be a tribe in the future?
VOC has re-visited this comment and decided to give it a topic, as it sounds like a curious story.
Copied from another topic. ABOUT 2ND CHIEF ROGER BARNETT. A little tidbit that I heard about. Maybe some of you have heard this too. There
is a small shopping center at 31st & Sheridan (NE corner), and
there is a Bingo business there. A few tribal car tags were spotted
behind the bingo place, and ROGER BARNETT appeared to be one of those,
as he was spotted getting out of his vehicle and going into the back
door of the bingo place. I wonder what the heck would he be doing
there. Is it possible he may have some absconded gaming machines in
there? Since MCN/GOAB now owns most of the machines, could he have
access to some extras? Or maybe even Rocket machines or is something
very corrupt going on with our elected official and his partners?
Again, most of we citizens have learned of the big hotel addition to the River Spirit Casino location "from today's issue of the Tulsa World newspaper". Why is George so determined to notify the other world before letting us citizens know?
If issues are already settled, there is nothing we can do so he can at least hold his news conference at the MCN complex for the citizens, who deserve this little courtesy to officially learn of goings-ons, then go into the city to announce his big coup to the other world.
He apparently holds no respect for our citizens, only to get himself out in front of the other world for personal publicity. He is always saying "we want be good neighbors", but he obviously doesn't mean "he wants to be a good neighbor/leader to HIS CITIZENS."
Throwing money & things in our faces doesn't mean a thing compared to how he treats us. That is part of our heritage & cultural upbringing. We would rather get a genuine handshake than a $100 bill to buy us.
Some of us are still stuck in our cultural heritage and probably so completely out-of-touch with the ethics and self-promotion of today's beliefs of our leaders. So be it!
Previous topic still good. The following items are additions to the agenda as they are interesting, and we aren't including some other agenda items.
TR 13-033 A TRIBAL RESOLUTION OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING GAMING OPERATIONS AUTHORITY BOARD TO EXECUTE A GAMING MACHINE VENDOR AGREEMENT WITH THE MIAMI TRIBE OF OKLAHOMA BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY D/B/A ROCKET GAMING SYSTEMS. Sponsor: Robert Hufft (Folks, remember Nelson Johnson is Gaming Commissioner and is part and partial of Rocket Gaming, and George has been known to be connected, if you know what that means! Hufft probably has his hands in there too. This is pure conflict-of-interest with everybody involved - or corruption is the better description.)
NCA 13-055 A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING A SPECIAL APPROPRIATION FOR THE CREATION OF A MVSKOKE NATION ARTS COUNCIL AND ESTABLISHING A TASK FORCE TO DEVELOP, ORGANIZE AND PROVIDE A DETAILED PROPOSAL FOR ITS IMPLEMENTATION – Sponsor: Kara Medina ($97,040.00) (Another Beaver & Giles idea, no doubt.)
NCA 13-058 A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION REAFFIRMING SUPPORT FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE MUSCOGEE SACRED SITE OF HICKORY GROUND NEAR WETUMPKA, ALABAMA AND AUTHORIZING A SPECIAL APPROPRIATION FOR THE COST OF NECESSARY MEASURES RELATED THERETO – Sponsor: Sam Alexander; Co-Sponsor(s): D. Barnett; F.Coachman; J.Greene; D. Hill; M. Randolph; T. Yahola ($297,688.00)
NCA 13-059 A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING A DONATION TO FIRE IN THE CAMP MINISTRIES – Sponsor: Darrel Proctor; Co-Sponsor: Adam Jones III ($5,000.00) (What is this?)
NCA 13-062 A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION TO THE VETERANS AFFAIRS SERVICES OFFICE (VASO) FOR FISCAL YEAR 2013 BUDGET – Sponsor: Adam Jones III; Co-Sponsor: D. Proctor; S. Alexander ($107,628.00)
TERM LIMITS for National Council effective in 2013!!!
MadMan Tiger has our tribal funds at his disposal to buy back all NC seats he wants.
He paid for many last election with his undisclosed contributions from less than honest people.
GET THE CONVENTION NOW!!
This NC will with 3/4 'yes' votes, can place a question on the agenda without our permission. The question will be: "THE OFFICE OF PRINCIPAL CHIEF SHALL HAVE NO TERM LIMITS EFFECTIVE THIS ELECTION." Yes No
Tiger will fight against us on having a CONVENTION. He will use LightHorse, Security, bribary, threats and any unsavory method he can scrape up.
Here again is another story learned from the Tulsa World newspaper of November 2, 2012 edition, written by Kevin Canfield. The MCN certainly doesn't give us any information, nor does the MCN Newspaper, until after the fact. Are they all in this together to keep us in the dark?
Our MCN's George Tiger and MCN Council Speaker Sam Alexander have pulled another trick on the citizens of our Nation, at a cost of $120,00 per month/$1.44 million per year to get our name on the Expo Square building which has been referred to as "QuikTrip Center". It will now be called the "Muscogee (Creek) Nation Center".
What advantage does this give to MCN? It probably has a lot to do with horse-racing deals, since Ron Schotts appears to be joyful about all this. And it probably gets the Osage and Cherokees off the hook on the contributions they have been required to make to Ron Schotts' and that enterprise, a money-loser for years.
What will we accomplish with this for the near future? Does our deal include contracts that are already in place such as the CHILI BOWL or the BASS MASTERS TOURNAMENT and other events? Will we get some $$ back out of them?
We are just at a loss as to where all the money is coming from to pay for this and RiverWalk Crossing. We can only think of how many houses we could supply to our citizens, how many pay raises could we give to our employees, how many more services could we supply to our citizens, and a lot more.
We aren't even given a true and open budget so we can only guess. Is George and the NC using gaming generated funds for all these extra-curricular spending? OR THEY SPENDING DOWN OUR PERMANENT FUNDS BECAUSE WE KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY-MAKING ENTERPRISES MAKING THIS KIND OF MONEY?
All George and his council want is personal ego satisfaction and more than likely private funds into their pockets.
1st we read in the Tulsa World's article today with NC Speaker Sam Alexander sounding a mite disturbed that the attorneys for Kialegee came to council members, probably wanting to deal. We aren't told what exactly they wanted.
Now we hear that good ole' George is in more deeply than he ever admitted, from different sources. It has been reported that George made a deal with the Giles/Kialegee casino debacle, written right into the contract, that he would receive 5% of the deal to be paid to himself.
And the topper is that he made the deals while still a member of the National Council as Speaker. It's also been reported that some Agency is investigating ole' George and his money-grabbing activities, ALL ILLEGAL.
Of course, that is the reason as we all surmised way back then why he wouldn't or couldn't simply say a plain NO NO NO to the Giles/Kialegee bunch. He just hemmed & hawed every time he opened his mouth about what the Creeks would do - allow the casino or not allow.
But we told you so. Did anyone believe VOC? Let's hear some more if you would like to contribute.
WHERE: RiverSpirit Event Center, 8330 Riverside Parkway, Tulsa, OK 74137
This year, the Muscogee (Creek) Nation will host the inaugural MVSKOKE
Hall of Fame Induction Gala at the RiverSpirit Event Center in Tulsa,
The MVSKOKE Hall of Fame induction requires that the
individual must have brought recognition to the Muscogee (Creek) Nation
or have made outstanding contributions to the quality of life and
development. The inductee's achievements may be local, national, or
international in scope.
Individuals inducted to the MVSKOKE Hall
of Fame will be honored for their achievements in any of the following
fields of endeavor: Arts, Business/ Professional, Voluntary Service and
Public Affairs. Nominations or selection to the MVSKOKE Hall of Fame is
not restricted to these fields and individuals may be inducted for their
accomplishments in more than one area.
The inaugural MVSKOKE
Hall of Fame replaces the Living Legends ceremony that was conducted
during the annual festival. The MVSKOKE Hall of Fame Induction gala
offers\the Muscogee (Creek) Nation, Indian Country and the local
community the ability to honor inductees at a black tie &
traditional clothing gala. Sponsorship opportunity is available for this
Contact: William Lowe Muscogee (Creek) Nation Tourism & Recreation Department (918) 732-7992
MVSKOKE Hall of Fame Sponsorshop Agreement ### VOC Note: The Living Legends created by Chief Ellis was for Creeks and it was free too. This George Tiger creation appears to be for anyone, and it will end up being all NON-CREEK event. And I hope pictures are taken of our White-wannabes in their Black Tie get-up, if they know what that means. they are asking for sponsorships of $10,000 with a lot of perks; $5,000 with fewer perks; $3,000 only perk is you can bring 8 guests, OR for $250., you can also attend too but no perks. Oh, and the $10,000 & $5,000 money, you CAN SPEND 30 MIN. with George, Roger and the Inductees. There is more - look on the MCN's website. VOC travels in the wrong crowd, but it keeps us clean! WHO WILL GET ALL THAT SPONSORSHIP MONEY? IT WON'T BE THE TRIBE, TRUST US ON THAT.
VOC has been told many times about how employees are instructed to stay away from the VOC.
Communities are told to destroy any VOC publications/newsletters that show up, throwing in a few threats. Lo and behold, one better not be caught viewing VOC's website on tribal computers. Understandable if it's across-the-board rule, like including Ed Mouss/Robert Trepp's website.
Just who are the ones making these decisions? It would be interesting to know who they are and why. Is it fear? VOC doesn't come close to threatening anyone, other than to advocate for/against in elections. And that's because of knowledge of their morals, past behaviors, political leanings, etc.
We know there is hatred involved in what we have heard. Why do they hate VOC? To our knowledge, VOC has not lied about anything. When accused, we have challenged accusers to produce any of our lies, and nothing has ever been brought up. (Some who post comments do not count as VOC. They are encouraged to be truthful and offer solutions to any situation.) VOC IS SIMPLY CURIOUS. It will not change VOC. VOC will change when VOC wants to change.
This is a post from "TheNightWatchman". It deserves a topic, so here it is.
Not sure where to post this but it needs to be said. Judy Aaron is
living up to her reputation and destroying the Sapulpa clinic. If you
get your care there and like your doctor you better call and find out
where they are moving to because they are all leaving thanks to her!
I've heard the nurses are even trying to move to other clinics. They
won't be able to open the doors with no employees! Get her out of
Now that Dean Tiger lost the election where will George place him to
work within Creek Nation? Dean was too lazy and stupid to win the
election because we was off getting drunk every night and not
campaigning. George has already gotten all his other relatives jobs
within the Nation. Let us predict where ol’ Dean Tiger will be working.
Two of Georges kids Molly and His son work in tourism and recreation
just like his mistress was working there. And what has Molly Moore done
for that department besides break up the Directors marriage and make him
leave his kids? That job is the "get head" job. George was getting head
from Johnna Townsend for that job when she was there and when she got
fired, now George still benefits by employing his wifes daughter. Maybe
Dean will be in Tourism or maybe in the AG office where his other
daughter works. Well let us see who does George have in his pocket. Will
he work for Cherrah Ridge? We all know Cherrah Ridge will do what ever
the chief tells her to do. Even if it means employing a loser like Dean
Tiger. Why not? George keeps her man employed in a fake museum. Or will
it be William Lowe? The AG? What are Dean Tiger’s qualifications to work
for the Nation? I know a bunch of idiots voted for him for some reason.
Let’s all guess where his next high paid job will be for the nation?
That way we can see if we are right.